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==Signing==
 
Please do not sign collaborative efforts as your own ([http://wiki.contribs.org/index.php?title=SFTP&oldid=11782]). Thanks <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 16:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 
Please do not sign collaborative efforts as your own ([http://wiki.contribs.org/index.php?title=SFTP&oldid=11782]). Thanks <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 16:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
    
:Electroman00, please refrain from signing HowTo pages (I have once again reverted them and will not keep doing so), they are collaboratively edited and do not need a signature. Thanks. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 08:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 
:Electroman00, please refrain from signing HowTo pages (I have once again reverted them and will not keep doing so), they are collaboratively edited and do not need a signature. Thanks. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 08:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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::Guess you missed all the other hundreds of signed pages in the wiki that are collaboratively edited.
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::So whats the rule here so everyone is on the same code page since there is no written rule, at least none that I was able to find.
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:::There is a unwritten rule in the fact that this is a wiki and therefore, per definition, it is a collaborative effort and no ownership can nor should be claimed.
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:::There is no need to sign pages as the history nicely shows you who has done what.
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:::Please show me the hundred pages you mentioned, I doubt they are that many, so signatures can be removed there as well if inappropriate as some pages contain signatures as they are signing there user experience.
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:::I am not aware of people claiming ownership or modifications.
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:::I also would appreciate that you discuss stuff first if remarks are made, before changing things once again. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 08:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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I also would appreciate that you discuss stuff first if remarks are made, before changing things once again.
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Same here.
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:Some things do not need to be discussed as they are in the nature of a wiki. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 09:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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I also would appreciate if you would refrain from editing pages while they are being worked on at the very moment.
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At least wait until all editing is done, surely there are other pages you could work on in the mean time.
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Thanks much.
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:By the nature of the wiki it is hard to judge when work is done and is a collaborative effort <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 09:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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'''Thus the reason to wait, at least more then a few minutes. 10-4'''
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BTW did you see talk page about the bad links that were found?
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:Yes I did, still need to check them.
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Next time please post the issues on the discussion tab of the affected page instead of on my personal talk page.
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'''Sorry no problem, will do.'''
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So just to be clear, any time I see a page with a sig remove it?
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:No, any time you see an inappropriate sig nature you may remove it, but I prefer that you do so after making a remark on the discussion tab, since, and I do not mean to brag, you do not have the level of authority that I have in this wiki. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 09:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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'''10-4'''
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Question for ya, see this page [[B2evolution]] under maintainer there's an email link, is that ok?
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Also the reason why I re added the sig was because I thought it was just the way I did it the first time that didn't sit well, the second time was the way I found it on another page, I'm looking for that page to show you also. I do agree with you though, the sig really isn't needed due to the history page.
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Also is the some standard template somewhere i.e. a Howto template?
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== Sig pages ==
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Here I'll let you change them, then I won't be the bad guy!! haha no smiley here 10-4.
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[[Zarafa]]
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[[B2evolution]]
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:[[Zarafa]] is a contrib and therefore it has a maintainer. That is the reason that the contrib template has a Minatainer section. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 11:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Talk pages and signing ==
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Please sign your additions to the talk pages, here as well as on all other talk pages so it is easier to read who posted what. Thanks in advance! <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 11:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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Also is the some standard template somewhere i.e. a....Howto template?  '''<< You missed this...'''
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Not sure if you have it done already...
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A howto create a "howto wiki page" with the basic format (minimum requirements and format to cover all/most the bases) of what's needed and do's and don'ts
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Ditto for the contribs page.
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Then everyone can just copy/paste that basic format and edit as desired...10-4.
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Then somehow include a template revision so that pages using that format can be found easily and updated...10-4
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:Yes it is somewhere, I need to look it up and place it somewhere where it can be found more easily indeed. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 13:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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Also how are you adding you time stamp info here or is that auto added by the wiki sys?
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:Just add four tildes (~) at the end of your comment, wiki magic does the rest. <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Cactus|contribs]])&nbsp;</small> 13:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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'''Thanks for that....'''
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I need to look it up and place it somewhere where it can be found more easily indeed.
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Yea like on the main page i.e. "Howto create a wiki Howto" then there's no excuse anyone not finding it.
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Ditto for the contribs page.
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:Yes, maybe put a link on the main page, right below the "Find help with reading and editing the Wiki". I would suggest to put the information on [[Category_talk:Howto]] like it is done for contribs on [[Category_talk:Contrib]]. I suggested that in the forums in a post regarding a howto for Epiware some days ago: [http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,42799.msg203004.html#msg203004] --[[User:Ente|Ente]] 19:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hey sorry to be a pain in your butt, if you need help with anything just ask, with SME8 on it's way, I know things are going to get a little hectic so just ask.
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BTW Just tested 8beta3 on two systems ide & scsi and both were upgrades to beta2 which had some issues.
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8beta3 was flawless install and yum update worked a treat.
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Hardware was old and new.
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So from what I see it's ready for prime time testing.
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Guess this should hit the BT? [[User:Electroman00|Electroman00]] 14:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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