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== A Community Discussion ==
 
== A Community Discussion ==
   
A document to discuss potential management and roadmap at SME
 
A document to discuss potential management and roadmap at SME
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At the moment SME has neither. If we want to move SME forward we have therefore got to build both of these at the same time.
 
At the moment SME has neither. If we want to move SME forward we have therefore got to build both of these at the same time.
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== First, a plan. ==
 
== First, a plan. ==
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==== Move the current base to CentOS 6 as soon as possible ====
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==== Move the current base to CentOS 6 asap ====
 
This is to allow installation on newer hardware, allow easier installation of other applications with less interference of the existing subsystem. CentOS 5 is already getting on. Users want to keep abreast of newer technologies. The pace of change is fast. We may not all like it, but we cannot change it. We have to make some sort of attempt to keep there or thereabouts. Users and developers want the knowledge that the platform will be current and supported to allow them time to develop applications for it.
 
This is to allow installation on newer hardware, allow easier installation of other applications with less interference of the existing subsystem. CentOS 5 is already getting on. Users want to keep abreast of newer technologies. The pace of change is fast. We may not all like it, but we cannot change it. We have to make some sort of attempt to keep there or thereabouts. Users and developers want the knowledge that the platform will be current and supported to allow them time to develop applications for it.
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Site costs - all donations go there today, and it is not enough. Shad has been open and provided what numbers he can.
 
Site costs - all donations go there today, and it is not enough. Shad has been open and provided what numbers he can.
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Development money for Charlie,
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* Development money for Charlie and Shad
 
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* If we generate funds then there will be a need to account for them and means accountants and lawyers
Development money for Shad<br />
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If we generate funds then there will be a need to account for them and means accountants and lawyers
      
Traditionally SME has been developer led, but it also needs a firm financial footing to help fund current and future costs. No money, no honey as they say.
 
Traditionally SME has been developer led, but it also needs a firm financial footing to help fund current and future costs. No money, no honey as they say.
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'''Current status''' : Dire. Shad has already reported that average income is only a couple of hundred dollars a month and that just about meets his hosting costs.
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'''Current status''' : Shad has already reported that average income is only a couple of hundred dollars a month and that just about meets his hosting costs.
    
There are suggestions on how to monetise SME whilst still retaining its Open Source tradition. The first thing that springs to mind is some form of advertising on the web site. The current site, though a great resource for SME, does  not really sell the product. In the first instance it looks old, and there is a lot of material that is very old and needs bringing up to date – there is work on going already in that department.
 
There are suggestions on how to monetise SME whilst still retaining its Open Source tradition. The first thing that springs to mind is some form of advertising on the web site. The current site, though a great resource for SME, does  not really sell the product. In the first instance it looks old, and there is a lot of material that is very old and needs bringing up to date – there is work on going already in that department.
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There are a number of people looking at ideas on how to get greater visibility, more users, and attract potential sponsors or advertisers. We need to have a product in which people see a future, and a concept they can buy in to.
 
There are a number of people looking at ideas on how to get greater visibility, more users, and attract potential sponsors or advertisers. We need to have a product in which people see a future, and a concept they can buy in to.
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There are a small group looking at the whole marketing aspect of SME including redevelopment of the front page. There have been a variety of suggestion that are being looked at :
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There is a small group looking at the whole marketing aspect of SME including redevelopment of the front page. A variety of suggestions is being looked at, including :
 
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Should we rebrand or just redefine SME in the market place ?
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* Should we rebrand or just redefine SME in the market place ?
 
* Revitalize/redesign the website
 
* Revitalize/redesign the website
 
* Make it sexy
 
* Make it sexy
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Raising income levels is a major task, and very important. How we do it is an area we need to discuss further.
 
Raising income levels is a major task, and very important. How we do it is an area we need to discuss further.
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==== Manpower ====
 
==== Manpower ====
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We also needs a project that has a future and that will attract new developers
 
We also needs a project that has a future and that will attract new developers
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== Need for some form of organisation ==
 
== Need for some form of organisation ==
   
Whether we like it or not, we need to have some form of organisation. Without it the project will be like a headless chicken.
 
Whether we like it or not, we need to have some form of organisation. Without it the project will be like a headless chicken.
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==== Development ====
 
==== Development ====
Ian Wells is currently leading the charge in this area. He would like around 7 developers plus a few testers to help verify.
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Ian Wells is currently leading the charge in this area. He would like more developers and more testers to help verify.
    
* Ian Wells
 
* Ian Wells
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* Daniel Berteaud
 
* Daniel Berteaud
 
* John Crisp
 
* John Crisp
      
==== Testing ====
 
==== Testing ====
* Chris Burnat
   
* jester ??
 
* jester ??
 
* Huib de Visser
 
* Huib de Visser
 
* Terry Fage
 
* Terry Fage
 
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* Jim McLaren
    
==== Bugs and maintenance ====
 
==== Bugs and maintenance ====
 
===== Current SME v8 mainline packages =====
 
===== Current SME v8 mainline packages =====
 
Developers as above
 
Developers as above
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===== Contributed packages =====
 
===== Contributed packages =====
 
Package maintainers (could do with some feedback in this area !)
 
Package maintainers (could do with some feedback in this area !)
 
* Brian Read (mailstats package)
 
* Brian Read (mailstats package)
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===== Old packages =====
 
===== Old packages =====
 
* Jean-Philippe PIALASSE
 
* Jean-Philippe PIALASSE
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===== Wiki & Docs =====
 
===== Wiki & Docs =====
* Chris Burnat
   
* Terry Fage
 
* Terry Fage
 
* Stéphane de Labrusse
 
* Stéphane de Labrusse
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===== Forums =====
 
===== Forums =====
 
* Terry Fage
 
* Terry Fage
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* Stéphane de Labrusse
    
I do not yet know who the moderators are but I would be grateful if someone could put their names here !
 
I do not yet know who the moderators are but I would be grateful if someone could put their names here !
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Don’t ask your distro what it can do for you. Ask what you can do for your distro :-)
 
Don’t ask your distro what it can do for you. Ask what you can do for your distro :-)
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== Google Docs version of this page ==
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1weBhHMD0UtNVNLicE7r2sW4eyCHW8D4ePp7W4gZSNCc/edit
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Please follow up this post on the Discussion mailing list :
 
Please follow up this post on the Discussion mailing list :
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You can join all the lists here [http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/listinfo/]
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You can join all the lists here: [http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/listinfo/ Contribs.org - Mailman].
    
This is the official place for discussion on the future of SME.
 
This is the official place for discussion on the future of SME.
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For more Genral Chat please visit the Forums [http://forums.contribs.org] or there is a also a IRC channel where people who are interested in this effort 'hang out'. You're most welcome to drop by and/or join. It's free! ;-)
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For more General Chat please visit the [http://forums.contribs.org Contribs.org - Forums] or there is a also a IRC channel where people who are interested in this effort 'hang out'. You're most welcome to drop by and/or join. It's free! ;-)
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You do not have to install anything to pay the channel a visit. All you need is a nice nickname and right click [http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=SME_server&uio=Mj10cnVlJjk9dHJ1ZSYxMT03Mg13 Freenode.net - SME_server] to open the channel in a new browser window or tab.
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You do not have to install anything to pay the channel a visit. All you need is a nice nickname and right click [http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=SME_server&uio=Mj10cnVlJjk9dHJ1ZSYxMT03Mg13 here] to open the channel in a new browser window or tab.
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