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{{Languages|Mailman}}
 
==Mailman==
 
==Mailman==
  
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{{Note box| It does not appear that this contrib works properly for virtual domains on SME 7.3+.  This contrib functions as specified for the primary domain only.  Additional work is required for this contrib to function properly for virtual domains.
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=== Maintainer ===
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[mailto:stephdl@de-labrusse.fr stephdl] Stéphane de Labrusse AKA [[User:stephdl|Stephdl]]<br />
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Currently work on progress to port it on SME8
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=== Version ===
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{{ #smeversion: smeserver-mailman }}
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===Description===
 
===Description===
  
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=== Installation ===
 
=== Installation ===
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<tabs container><tab name="For SME 10">
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yum install smeserver-mailman --enablerepo=smecontribs
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</tab><tab name="For SME 9 and SME 8">
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* for sme8, sme9
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yum install smeserver-mailman --enablerepo=smecontribs
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signal-event mailman-update
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or if you want to restart your server
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signal-event post-upgrade;signal-event reboot
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</tab>
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</tabs>
  
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yum --enablerepo smecontribs install mailman smeserver-mailman
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You should now see a Mailman section under the Configuration section of the server-manager. Please see Known issues below to set up your mailman session. Keep in mind that the mailman administrator password is not the same as the SME Server one, [[Mailman#Error:_You_are_not_authorized_to_create_new_mailing_lists|Read the section below to see how find your password]].
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You should now see a Mailman section under the Configuration section of the server-manager. But if you are not running the contribs compiled version, Mailman's management interface shows up with a CGI error message. It complains about group mismatch error between "www" and "apache". Login as root and apply the following workaround, which was suggested in [[bugzilla:6425]]:
 
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id -u apache                  # should yield 48
 
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id -u www                    # should yield 102
 
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usermod -u 102 -o apache      # makes apache user and www user identical
 
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groupmod -g 102 -o apache    # make apache group and www group identical
 
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====Need a reconfiguration after i enable mailman through the server-manager====
 
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version concerned, see [[bugzilla:7845]]
 
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[root@sme8dev64 ~]# rpm -qa smeserver-mailman mailman
 
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mailman-2.1.9-20.el5.sme
 
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smeserver-mailman-1.3.0-42.el5.sme
 
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It results that after the activation (enable button) by the server-manager you need to reconfigure the server by the followed commands if you want to receive mails of user registration and creation of list.
 
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[root@sme8dev64 ~]# signal-event post-upgrade ; signal-event reboot
 
  
 
=== Configuration ===
 
=== Configuration ===
  
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==== File locations ====
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==== Configure access ====
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By default only listing public lists is enabled from outside the LAN. Admin is reserved for LAN access, and also Archive browsing.
  
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{|border="1"
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Option setting is also attached to the public listing access, so external users can modify their preferences.
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|-
 
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! Location
 
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! Description
 
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| /var/lib/mailman
 
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| location of mailman lists and archives
 
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| /usr/lib/mailman
 
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| location of mailman program files
 
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| /usr/lib/mailman/aliases
 
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| location of qmail alias files
 
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|}
 
  
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==== Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists====
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To modify those setting just go to server-manager and modify according to your needs.
  
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Actually the administrator of SME Server isn't allowed to create Lists (even from the server-manager), here is how obtain the mailman administrator password. see [[bugzilla:7836]]
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==== Creating lists ====
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===== Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists=====
  
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version concerned
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The administrator of SME Server isn't allowed to create Lists (even from the server-manager), this is how obtain the mailman administrator password. see [[bugzilla:7836]]
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[root@sme8dev64 ~]# rpm -qa smeserver-mailman mailman
 
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mailman-2.1.9-20.el5.sme
 
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smeserver-mailman-1.3.0-42.el5.sme
 
  
 
{{Tip box|The mailman password is different of the admin password of SME Server, therefore to know the mailman Password you can issue the following command in a root terminal}}
 
{{Tip box|The mailman password is different of the admin password of SME Server, therefore to know the mailman Password you can issue the following command in a root terminal}}
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     status=enabled
 
     status=enabled
  
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You have to use the value of SitePass as your mailman password to create Lists. If you change the password later with /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepas, you *SHOULD* update SitePass using
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You have to use the value of SitePass as your mailman password to create Lists. If you change the password later with '''/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass''' you '''*SHOULD*''' update SitePass using
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  config setprop mailman SitePass YOUR_PASSWORD
 
  config setprop mailman SitePass YOUR_PASSWORD
  
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==== Creating lists ====
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===== Error: Unknown virtual host: xxxxxx.xx=====
 
Go to http://domain.name/mailman to create new lists.
 
Go to http://domain.name/mailman to create new lists.
  
 
If your SMEServer has multiple domains configured, do not prepend www. before the virtual domain.
 
If your SMEServer has multiple domains configured, do not prepend www. before the virtual domain.
  
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For example: go to http:// virtualdomain.name/mailman to create lists for that domain name.
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For example: go to http://virtualdomain.name/mailman to create lists for that domain name.
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Keep in mind that no list can have the same name as an ibay or an user so choose the name carefully.
 
  
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Keep in mind that '''no list can have the same name as an ibay, group or an user''' so choose the name carefully.
 
{{Note box|msg=Always use http://domain.name/mailman to create your list, where domain.name is the exact domain you want to be used after the "@". Failing to do so, will lead to denial to relay error. As an example do not go to http://hostname.domain.name/mailman to create a mailing list for mailinglist@domain.name but to http://domain.name/mailman. see [[Bugzilla:5976]]
 
{{Note box|msg=Always use http://domain.name/mailman to create your list, where domain.name is the exact domain you want to be used after the "@". Failing to do so, will lead to denial to relay error. As an example do not go to http://hostname.domain.name/mailman to create a mailing list for mailinglist@domain.name but to http://domain.name/mailman. see [[Bugzilla:5976]]
  
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}}
  
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{{Tip box|Further more You have to define the concerned domain in the  server-manager's domain panel. You can select whether this domain is resolved locally, passed to the corporate DNS servers, or resolved by the Internet DNS servers, otherwise you will have the message:  '''Error: Unknown virtual host: xxxxxx'''}}
  
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===== "www" instead of "apache" =====
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But if you are not running the contribs compiled version, Mailman's management interface shows up with a CGI error message. It complains about group mismatch error between "www" and "apache". Login as root and apply the following workaround, which was suggested in [[bugzilla:6425]]:
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id -u apache                  # should yield 48
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id -u www                    # should yield 102
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usermod -u 102 -o apache      # makes apache user and www user identical
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groupmod -g 102 -o apache    # make apache group and www group identical
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==== File locations ====
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{|border="1"
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|-
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! Location
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! Description
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| /var/lib/mailman
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| location of mailman lists and archives
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| /usr/lib/mailman
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| location of mailman program files
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| /usr/lib/mailman/aliases
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| location of qmail alias files
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==== Command line options ====
 
==== Command line options ====
 
You can do a lot using the command line scripts located in /usr/lib/mailman/bin
 
You can do a lot using the command line scripts located in /usr/lib/mailman/bin
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| /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_owners
 
| /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_owners
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|  will list all owners of mailling lists or will list all mailling list
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|  will list all owners of mailling lists or will list all mailling lists
 
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Running the script with --help will display the options available
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Running the script with --help will display the options available.
  
 
==== Transferring Lists ====
 
==== Transferring Lists ====
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You can transfer lists from another server and keep everything in tact. It's an easy process but the Mailman FAQ and info seems to be sparse and complicated. This simplifies everything.
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You can transfer lists from another server and keep everything intact. It's an easy process but the Mailman FAQ and info seems to be sparse and complicated. This simplifies everything.
  
 
OLD SERVER
 
OLD SERVER
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Extract/untar/unzip the tar/zip file.
 
Extract/untar/unzip the tar/zip file.
 
  tar -xvzf /var/lib/mailman.tar.gz
 
  tar -xvzf /var/lib/mailman.tar.gz
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The lists are transferred but the SME SERVER doesn't know about them. Let the server know about the list:
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The lists are transferred but the SME SERVER doesn't know about them. Let the server know about the lists:
 
  signal-event mailman-addlist <listname>
 
  signal-event mailman-addlist <listname>
  
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=== Personalization ===
 
=== Personalization ===
  
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{{Note box|Be warned that personalization is going to stress your server a lot as every mail is sent individually, not in batches as mailman usually do, so test this option before using in a production server}}
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{{Note box|Be warned that personalization is going to stress your server a lot as every mail is sent individually, not in batches as mailman usually do, so test this option before using in a production server.}}
  
 
If you want to enable personalization in mailman (make every mail sent with the name of the recipient in the to: field as example or add the name of the user on the text) you do this:
 
If you want to enable personalization in mailman (make every mail sent with the name of the recipient in the to: field as example or add the name of the user on the text) you do this:
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  /etc/e-smith/templates-custom/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/30hostname
 
  /etc/e-smith/templates-custom/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/30hostname
 
</li><li>
 
</li><li>
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To refelct your changes we need to regenerate the file using the following commands:
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To reflect your changes we need to regenerate the file using the following commands:
 
  expand-template /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
 
  expand-template /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
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  signal-event reboot
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  signal-event smeserver-mailman-update
 
</li><li>
 
</li><li>
 
After the server comes back up again enter your mailing list admin and go to non-digest and in "Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery?" choose either yes or full personalization. Test both to see wich one do you like more...
 
After the server comes back up again enter your mailing list admin and go to non-digest and in "Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery?" choose either yes or full personalization. Test both to see wich one do you like more...
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and mailman is going to replace the string with the name the person used when he/she subscribed.
 
and mailman is going to replace the string with the name the person used when he/she subscribed.
 
</li></ol>
 
</li></ol>
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===Import lists from ezmlm===
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Get the script ezmlm2mbox from http://www.arctic.org/~dean/scripts/ezmlm2mbox
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wget http://www.arctic.org/~dean/scripts/ezmlm2mbox -O
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Get subscribers:
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ezmlm-list /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist > mylist.subscribers
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Get denied subscribers:
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ezmlm-list /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist deny > mylist.deny
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Convert the ezmlm list to an mbox-file:
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./ezmlm2mbox /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist > mylist.mbox
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Backup the ezmlm list, just in case ...
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tar -czf mylist.tgz /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist
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Then using the server-manager:
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# Remove the ezmlm list, via the ezmlm web panel
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# Create the new Mailman list, via the Mailman web panel
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# Add subscribers to the new list, using the file you made in step 1. I prefer to do this in silence, without letting the subscribers know.
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# Check the file mylist.deny from step 2, and - if needed - adjust the settings of your new list accordingly.
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Import the mbox to Mailman
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cp mylist.mbox  /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox
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/opt/mailman/bin/arch --wipe mylist
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Check and fix ownerships and access rights
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/opt/mailman/bin/check_perms -f
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from : https://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,53230.0.html
  
 
=== For more information ===
 
=== For more information ===
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=== Current Issues ===
 
=== Current Issues ===
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* Check submitted bugs in the bug tracker under the contrib component "smeserver-mailman"
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* Current mailman release is 2.1.9
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=== Bugs ===
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* [[Bugzilla:2411]]: /usr/lib/mailman/aliases and /var/lib/mailman are not currently backed up
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Please raise bugs under the SME-Contribs section in [http://bugs.contribs.org/enter_bug.cgi bugzilla]
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and select the smeserver-mailman component or use {{BugzillaFileBug|product=SME%20Contribs|component=smeserver-mailman|title=this link}}.
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{{#bugzilla:columns=id,product,version,status,summary |sort=id|order=desc |component=smeserver-mailman|noresultsmessage="No open bugs found."}}
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= Changelog =
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Only released versions in smecontrib are listed here.
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{{#smechangelog:smeserver-mailman}}
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[[Category:Contrib]]
 
[[Category:Contrib]]
 
[[Category:Mail]]
 
[[Category:Mail]]
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[[Category:Mail:Mailinglists]]

Latest revision as of 04:12, 24 July 2022

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Mailman

Maintainer

stephdl Stéphane de Labrusse AKA Stephdl

Version

Contrib 10:
Contrib 9:
smeserver-mailman
The latest version of smeserver-mailman is available in the SME repository, click on the version number(s) for more information.


Description

Mailman is free software for managing electronic mail discussion and e-newsletter lists. Mailman is integrated with the web, making it easy for users to manage their accounts and for list owners to administer their lists. Mailman supports built-in archiving, automatic bounce processing, content filtering, digest delivery, spam filters, and more.

Thanks to Gordon Rowell for developing the rpms.

Installation

yum install smeserver-mailman --enablerepo=smecontribs
  • for sme8, sme9
yum install smeserver-mailman --enablerepo=smecontribs 
signal-event mailman-update

or if you want to restart your server 

signal-event post-upgrade;signal-event reboot

You should now see a Mailman section under the Configuration section of the server-manager. Please see Known issues below to set up your mailman session. Keep in mind that the mailman administrator password is not the same as the SME Server one, Read the section below to see how find your password.

Configuration

Configure access

By default only listing public lists is enabled from outside the LAN. Admin is reserved for LAN access, and also Archive browsing.

Option setting is also attached to the public listing access, so external users can modify their preferences.

To modify those setting just go to server-manager and modify according to your needs.

Creating lists

Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists

The administrator of SME Server isn't allowed to create Lists (even from the server-manager), this is how obtain the mailman administrator password. see bugzilla:7836


Information.png Tip:
The mailman password is different of the admin password of SME Server, therefore to know the mailman Password you can issue the following command in a root terminal 


[root@sme8dev64 ~]# config show mailman 
mailman=service
    SitePass=[YOUR_PASSWORD_IS_HERE]
    status=enabled

You have to use the value of SitePass as your mailman password to create Lists. If you change the password later with /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass you *SHOULD* update SitePass using 

config setprop mailman SitePass YOUR_PASSWORD
Error: Unknown virtual host: xxxxxx.xx

Go to http://domain.name/mailman to create new lists.

If your SMEServer has multiple domains configured, do not prepend www. before the virtual domain.

For example: go to http://virtualdomain.name/mailman to create lists for that domain name.

Keep in mind that no list can have the same name as an ibay, group or an user so choose the name carefully.

Important.png Note:
Always use http://domain.name/mailman to create your list, where domain.name is the exact domain you want to be used after the "@". Failing to do so, will lead to denial to relay error. As an example do not go to http://hostname.domain.name/mailman to create a mailing list for mailinglist@domain.name but to http://domain.name/mailman. see Bugzilla:5976

If you don't use a FQDN domain Name as described above, you can have an error like this one 

Error: Unknown virtual host: xxxxxx

where xxxxxx is the hostname of your Server. see bugzilla:7837



Information.png Tip:
Further more You have to define the concerned domain in the server-manager's domain panel. You can select whether this domain is resolved locally, passed to the corporate DNS servers, or resolved by the Internet DNS servers, otherwise you will have the message: Error: Unknown virtual host: xxxxxx


"www" instead of "apache"
But if you are not running the contribs compiled version, Mailman's management interface shows up with a CGI error message. It complains about group mismatch error between "www" and "apache". Login as root and apply the following workaround, which was suggested in bugzilla:6425:

id -u apache                  # should yield 48
id -u www                     # should yield 102
usermod -u 102 -o apache      # makes apache user and www user identical
groupmod -g 102 -o apache     # make apache group and www group identical

File locations

Location Description
/var/lib/mailman location of mailman lists and archives
/usr/lib/mailman location of mailman program files
/usr/lib/mailman/aliases location of qmail alias files

Command line options

You can do a lot using the command line scripts located in /usr/lib/mailman/bin

For example

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mmsitepass will set the master password for all lists
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members [listname] will list the members of [listname]
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins [listname] will list all admins of [listname]
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists will list your mailling lists
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_owners will list all owners of mailling lists or will list all mailling lists

Running the script with --help will display the options available.

Transferring Lists

You can transfer lists from another server and keep everything intact. It's an easy process but the Mailman FAQ and info seems to be sparse and complicated. This simplifies everything.

OLD SERVER

First stop the mailman service. 

/etc/init.d/mailman stop

Next, tar/zip up the lists. 

tar -czvf /temp/mailman.tar.gz /var/lib/mailman

Next, transfer it onto the new server using scp or rsync: 

scp -P <sshportnumber> /temp/mailman.tar.gz <newserverip>:/var/lib

or 

rsync --progress -te "ssh -p <sshportnumber>" /temp/mailman.tar.gz <newserverip>:/var/lib

NEW SERVER

Change to the rpm location. 

cd /install

Install the rpms. 

yum localinstall mailman-* smeserver-mailman-*

Extract/untar/unzip the tar/zip file. 

tar -xvzf /var/lib/mailman.tar.gz

The lists are transferred but the SME SERVER doesn't know about them. Let the server know about the lists: 

signal-event mailman-addlist <listname>

All your lists and lists' configurations should now be available at: http://domain.name/mailman

Personalization

Important.png Note:
Be warned that personalization is going to stress your server a lot as every mail is sent individually, not in batches as mailman usually do, so test this option before using in a production server.


If you want to enable personalization in mailman (make every mail sent with the name of the recipient in the to: field as example or add the name of the user on the text) you do this:

  1. Create the custom-templates tree, in case it does not exist already: mkdir -p /etc/e-smith/templates-custom/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/
  2. Copy the hostname file from the templates tree to the templates-custom tree maintaining the directory layout: cp \ /etc/e-smith/templates/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/30hostname \ /etc/e-smith/templates-custom/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/30hostname
  3. Now we need to add one line to the custom template fragment to enable personalization: echo OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 >> \ /etc/e-smith/templates-custom/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py/30hostname
  4. To reflect your changes we need to regenerate the file using the following commands: expand-template /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py signal-event smeserver-mailman-update
  5. After the server comes back up again enter your mailing list admin and go to non-digest and in "Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery?" choose either yes or full personalization. Test both to see wich one do you like more... Also if you want to add a header with the person name enter in "Header added to mail sent to regular list members" this: Hello dear %(user_name)s and mailman is going to replace the string with the name the person used when he/she subscribed.

Import lists from ezmlm

Get the script ezmlm2mbox from http://www.arctic.org/~dean/scripts/ezmlm2mbox 

wget http://www.arctic.org/~dean/scripts/ezmlm2mbox -O

Get subscribers: 

ezmlm-list /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist > mylist.subscribers

Get denied subscribers: 

ezmlm-list /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist deny > mylist.deny

Convert the ezmlm list to an mbox-file: 

./ezmlm2mbox /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist > mylist.mbox

Backup the ezmlm list, just in case ... 

tar -czf mylist.tgz /home/e-smith/files/ezmlm/lists/mylist

Then using the server-manager:

  1. Remove the ezmlm list, via the ezmlm web panel
  2. Create the new Mailman list, via the Mailman web panel
  3. Add subscribers to the new list, using the file you made in step 1. I prefer to do this in silence, without letting the subscribers know.
  4. Check the file mylist.deny from step 2, and - if needed - adjust the settings of your new list accordingly.


Import the mbox to Mailman 

cp mylist.mbox  /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox
/opt/mailman/bin/arch --wipe mylist

Check and fix ownerships and access rights 

/opt/mailman/bin/check_perms -f

from : https://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,53230.0.html

For more information

Mailman website http://www.list.org/ Mailman FAQ http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all

Current Issues

Bugs

Please raise bugs under the SME-Contribs section in bugzilla and select the smeserver-mailman component or use this link .

IDProductVersionStatusSummary (2 tasks) ⇒
11948SME Contribs10.0CONFIRMEDNFR add property and fragment to allow personalization
11938SME Contribs10.0CONFIRMEDas mailman create the list for a specific domain we should use the domain in account entry as we do for pseudonyms

Changelog

Only released versions in smecontrib are listed here.

smeserver-mailman Changelog: SME 10 (smecontribs)
2022/11/11 Jean-Philippe Pialasse 1.5.0-20.sme
- apply locale 2022-11-11 patch
2022/07/30 Brian Read 1.5.0-18.sme
- Re-build and link to latest devtools [SME: 11997]

2022/07/30 Jean-Philippe Pialasse 1.5.0-17.sme
- update to httpd 2.4 access syntax [SME: 12050]

- rebuild for core backup [SME: 12015]

2022/07/23 Jean-Philippe Pialasse 1.5.0-16.sme
- apply locale 2022-07-24.patch
- add to core backup [SME: 12015]

 remove patch only adding to dar in SME 2411
- already compatible with httpd 2.4 syntax [SME: 12050]

2022/04/12 Jean-Philippe Pialasse 1.5.0-15.sme
- Re-build and link to latest devtools permissions as expected by mailman [SME: 11941]
- make mailman enabled on install [SME: 2248]
- by default listinfo is public [SME: 2247]
- by default admin and archives are private [SME: 2247]

- make access modifiable [SME: 2247]


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