Talk:Pootle
Preliminary
The Goal is to integrate Pootle with CVS and an automatic converter between XML files and PO at contribs.org :)
Once we have everything worked out how to interact with pootle and the formmagick stuff then I'll get something up on contribs.org that everyone can use. It would be really nice if we could automate the extraction/import of files that need to be translated into pootle but first things first. — Slords (talk • contribs). 18:23, 24 January 2008 (MST)
Test pootle site: http://www.unixlan.com.ar:8888
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Formagick
I have found a good tool (getpo) for convert HTML to PO and revert. The best is you can customize to handle xml tags. It has use TIDY lib.
Before use, you can enable centosplus repo and install "tidy".
Download getpo from http://i18n.linux.net.cn/download/gettext-autowork/getpo-031.tar.bz2
See these address:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2004-March/msg00070.html http://tidy.sourceforge.net http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html
I want to play with it to finally convert formmagick panels to PO correctly.
progress
Is this working manually yet Normando ?
- Not yet because I need help from a python or perl specific programmer. Anyway I can playing with these converters.
- --Normando Hall 08:21, 25 January 2008 (MST)
revision control using CVS/SVN
Today I had a quick look at the pootle pages and found a wiki as well, which has some valuable information like for instance revision control using CVS/SVN: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/version_control - Cactus 03:26, 25 January 2008 (MST)
progress
we'll look at this later, perhaps starting with contribs
Usage
untranslated words
click "Show Editing Functions" and finally at "Quick Translate" for each file or whole language.
Also you can see the suggestions clicking at "Review Suggestions".
checks
click "show checks" to see a list of syntax errors
acronyms 6 strings (2%) failed brackets 17 strings (6%) failed doublequoting 4 strings (1%) failed doublespacing 1 string (0%) failed endpunc 11 strings (3%) failed endwhitespace 4 strings (1%) failed numbers 2 strings (0%) failed puncspacing 2 strings (0%) failed sentencecount 2 strings (0%) failed simplecaps 16 strings (5%) failed startcaps 6 strings (2%) failed unchanged 7 strings (2%) failed untranslated 53 strings (19%) failed
click on one of the links offered and fix them
See http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/guide/translation/commonerrors
Remarks
Now we have entered the data, it makes it clearer where there are missing translations, good work !
cleanup
bugs
there isn't a standard english base for translators to work off, french and german have the most complete set
there is now, the english versoin is the latest
see merging new files, & check this patch to see differences
.po file names are inconsistent, SV & FR add .tmpl.po
- I Broke French, can you look at this please
- I have replace server-console.po with the last backup (jan 29, 14:01 LT)
questions
- Another item is charset utf8 or iso-8859-1
- charset=iso-8859-1 is mostly being used in the files I've looked at why would we change it ? SN
merging new strings
I have merged new strings into all 10 languages
A good way is to create a file with the change, called the same as the file you are merging into eg this update from sv userOverQuota.po
#: root/etc/e-smith/templates/usr/lib/e-smith-quota/userOverQuota.tmpl:22 msgid " no limit set" msgstr ""
A not so good way is to clobber it with a complete file, I did this with server-console.po
The stings merge fine, it just overwrites the header info.
I created the new server-console.po by taking the most complete translation which was the fr version and stripping the fr translations
A few inconsistencies remain, individual translators will have to resolve them, eg
- IT has extra strings
- SV is missing a few
Merging this way may leave orphaned strings, eg
-#: root/sbin/e-smith/console:2791 +#: root/sbin/e-smith/console:2832 msgid "" -"Please select whether you wish to reboot or shutdown. The process will start " -"as soon as you make your selection." +"Please select whether you wish to reboot, reconfigure or shutdown. The " +"process will start as soon as you make your selection." msgstr ""
We should work out how 'update from template' works. Where are the templates kept ? they will be the EN versions
