Talk:Email

What is this?

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--Normando Hall 15:42, 25 August 2007 (MDT)

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RBLList

config delprop qpsmtpd  RBLList
/etc/e-smith/events/actions/initialize-default-databases

gives

RBLList=bl.spamcop.net:combined.njabl.org:dnsbl.ahbl.org:dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net:dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net:list.dsbl.org:multihop.dsbl.org:psbl.surriel.com:zen.spamhaus.org

so why are we saying the following, isn't sme best practice

Many will argue what's best but most would agree that you can set best-practice recommended settings by:

config setprop qpsmtpd RBLList zen.spamhaus.org:whois.rfc-ignorant.org:dnsbl.njabl.org
signal-event email-update

Snoble 05:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

If I'm interpreting your question/post correctly....

I think the "best-practise" comment came from an earlier recommendation for "conservative" settings for RBLList. These settings were seen as non agressive, whereas the default settings that were in sme 7.0 (I think it was 7.0) when it was released, were more agressive and perhaps would block mail that some people wanted to receive.

Perhaps the words "best-practise recommended" should be replaced with "conservative non agressive".

Ray

Thanks Ray,

is the current default still too aggressive ?

is the suggested conservative value valid, and will it always be, ie if it can become outdated we should remove it

when there was a problem with an RBL before a fix was quickly released in smeupdates, if one of the wiki suggestions becomes outdated there is no automatic way to fix it

Stephen

Personally I think the defaults are too aggressive, they certainly stop just about all spam, but also stop wanted mail from popular free accounts etc. I have even found the dnsbl.njabl.org list blocks some popular free accounts that sme users wish to receive from. I was not involved in deciding the sme7 defaults, so do not know the rationale behind their selection/inclusion.

Yes, there were a couple of lists that went defunct and that did stop all mail from being received, unfortunately. The 3 conservative lists appear stable and have been for a long time now.

Perhaps the situation should be swapped around. The database defaults should only be zen.spamhaus.org:whois.rfc-ignorant.org:dnsbl.njabl.org and the other lists (that are defaults now) can be referred to in the wiki as additional lists that can be used, but with a warning that they are aggressive, so use with care and an understanding of what sources will be rejected.

Ray