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===Purpose=== | ===Purpose=== | ||
| − | The forums are used for discussions on a variety of topics considering SME Server. Here you can discuss configurations, ask opinions and support that is not provided by the bugtracker. The forums | + | The forums are used for discussions on a variety of topics considering SME Server. Here you can discuss configurations, ask opinions and support that is not provided by the bugtracker. The forums are the places where users can help each other and exchange experiences and knowledge. |
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| − | It is appreciated that before posting in the forums you first read the manuals and try to search for | + | It is appreciated that before posting in the forums you first read the manuals and try to search for your answer in the manuals, wiki, forums and bugtracker before posting a question in one of the forum boards. |
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| + | {{Note box|The development team are also members of the forums but '''please report problems with SME Server in the bugtracker'''. | ||
| + | Anything that is not working as it should be, can be considered as a bug and should be reported in the bugtracker and '''not''' in the forums. Discussions about the bug should be within the bug tracker and not in the forums. Once you have submitted the bug, you can reference it in the forum as information to others. If you do so, please ensure a link or a reference to the bug is provided. | ||
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| + | Exactly where the bug lies and whether the SME developers will do anything about it, gets determined in the bugtracker. If they cannot or will not resolve the problem in bugtracker, then you can come back to the forums for further help. | ||
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===Guidelines=== | ===Guidelines=== | ||
| − | + | Before posting a question to the forums, we would ask that you take the time to read this page. | |
| − | Before posting a question to the forums, we would ask that you take the time to read this | ||
This information is provided to help you get answers to your questions more quickly. Everyone who provides answers are volunteers and their time is valuable. Following the guidelines below will help them make the best use of that time to aid as many as possible including, of course, you. | This information is provided to help you get answers to your questions more quickly. Everyone who provides answers are volunteers and their time is valuable. Following the guidelines below will help them make the best use of that time to aid as many as possible including, of course, you. | ||
====Post your question to the correct forum==== | ====Post your question to the correct forum==== | ||
| − | This may seem obvious but please try to ensure you post your question to the correct forum and in the correct section (eg, for SME Server | + | This may seem obvious but please try to ensure you post your question to the correct forum and in the correct section (eg, for SME Server 8.x, SME Server 9.x, SME Contribs, etc). If you are unsure in which forum your question belongs, please do NOT double post in multiple forums but instead use the General Discussion forum. Most of us read ALL the forums so we will see your question. Double posting will result in |
| + | #. you being asked not to double post as opposed to being provided with an answer and | ||
| + | #. multiples posts being locked by a moderator where inappropriate. | ||
====Use a descriptive title for your thread==== | ====Use a descriptive title for your thread==== | ||
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Use a descriptive title for your thread. This is your one chance to advertise what it is you require help with and persuade people to actually read and potentially answer your question. Do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak or exclamation marks (!!!!). | Use a descriptive title for your thread. This is your one chance to advertise what it is you require help with and persuade people to actually read and potentially answer your question. Do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak or exclamation marks (!!!!). | ||
| − | Bad example: | + | '''Bad example:''' |
Urgent: pls hlp, can't get it to work!!!!!! | Urgent: pls hlp, can't get it to work!!!!!! | ||
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This tells us nothing other than it's urgent to you and that something isn't working. It is unlikely to even attract views, let alone answers. If you can't get your title right, what hope do we have that you've actually asked a coherent question in such a way that we may be able to help. | This tells us nothing other than it's urgent to you and that something isn't working. It is unlikely to even attract views, let alone answers. If you can't get your title right, what hope do we have that you've actually asked a coherent question in such a way that we may be able to help. | ||
| − | Better example: | + | '''Better example:''' |
| − | Installed | + | Installed SME Server 8.0, need help getting Network to connect (Dell Integrated Broadcom Nic). |
| − | Now we know what you've done and those who have dealt with | + | Now we know what you've done and those who have dealt with Broadcom Nics will know that it's an issue where they can possibly help. (This also holds for other hardware such as video cards and hard drives. Someone might ignore a subject of network doesn't work but answer a post of realtec card not working if they've had experience dealing with that particular card.) |
====Composing your question==== | ====Composing your question==== | ||
Again, do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak and no excessive exclamation marks. Do use good spelling, grammar and punctuation, and split your post up as appropriate into separate paragraphs. We acknowledge that although English is the preferred language of the forums, it is not everyone's first or native language. You do not need to apologize if English is not your native language, just do the best that you can to clearly and concisely describe your problem. | Again, do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak and no excessive exclamation marks. Do use good spelling, grammar and punctuation, and split your post up as appropriate into separate paragraphs. We acknowledge that although English is the preferred language of the forums, it is not everyone's first or native language. You do not need to apologize if English is not your native language, just do the best that you can to clearly and concisely describe your problem. | ||
| − | Before posting your question, first think about what your question is. If you don't know what your question is and how to articulate it, it is highly unlikely anyone else will be able to provide a reply. We don't have crystal balls | + | Before posting your question, first think about what your question is. If you don't know what your question is and how to articulate it, it is highly unlikely anyone else will be able to provide a reply. We don't have crystal balls and we can't read minds, also make sure you actually ask a question. |
| − | Bad example: | + | '''Bad example:''' |
| − | Q: My nic doesn't work! | + | Q: My nic doesn't work!<br> |
A: That's a shame, but thank you for sharing it with us. Did you have a question? | A: That's a shame, but thank you for sharing it with us. Did you have a question? | ||
| − | Better example: | + | '''Better example:''' |
| − | Q: My nic isn't detected after a default installation of SME Server. Please could anyone assist me in getting it working? | + | Q: My nic isn't detected after a default installation of SME Server. Please could anyone assist me in getting it working?<br> |
Don't ask questions that can be answered with yes or no, unless you want a yes or no answer, as that's what you'll most likely get. | Don't ask questions that can be answered with yes or no, unless you want a yes or no answer, as that's what you'll most likely get. | ||
| − | Bad example: | + | '''Bad example:''' |
| − | Q: I can't get Foo to work. Has anyone else managed to get this working? | + | Q: I can't get Foo to work. Has anyone else managed to get this working?<br> |
A: Yes. | A: Yes. | ||
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If you have a software-related question, please provide as much relevant information about your configuration as possible. Provide the version numbers of any software you are using, post the configuration file for the package you are having problems with and check your logs for relevant errors, and post these too (only the relevant errors please, not the whole log file). | If you have a software-related question, please provide as much relevant information about your configuration as possible. Provide the version numbers of any software you are using, post the configuration file for the package you are having problems with and check your logs for relevant errors, and post these too (only the relevant errors please, not the whole log file). | ||
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| + | If you have a network-related question, please provide as much information about your topology and configuration as possible. For example: network links and type, routers, LAN toplogy, servers, Clients, and Desktops. Where it may be part of the issue, identify the model and version of these items. | ||
If your question relates in any way to the kernel, please show us what kernel(s) you have installed and running by providing the output from the following commands: | If your question relates in any way to the kernel, please show us what kernel(s) you have installed and running by providing the output from the following commands: | ||
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Congratulations, now you have an answer to your problem, you have gained some valuable knowledge that, hopefully, you'll be willing to share when another Community member asks a similar question. Before you know it, you will be one of the people answering some of the questions, not just asking them. This is how a community works, by giving a little back occasionally. So once you have an answer we hope you'll stay around and become part of the Community. | Congratulations, now you have an answer to your problem, you have gained some valuable knowledge that, hopefully, you'll be willing to share when another Community member asks a similar question. Before you know it, you will be one of the people answering some of the questions, not just asking them. This is how a community works, by giving a little back occasionally. So once you have an answer we hope you'll stay around and become part of the Community. | ||
| + | <noinclude>---- | ||
| + | [[Category:SME Server|Forum]]</noinclude> | ||
Latest revision as of 20:20, 9 September 2013
Forums
The forums can be found at http://forums.contribs.org.
Purpose
The forums are used for discussions on a variety of topics considering SME Server. Here you can discuss configurations, ask opinions and support that is not provided by the bugtracker. The forums are the places where users can help each other and exchange experiences and knowledge.
It is appreciated that before posting in the forums you first read the manuals and try to search for your answer in the manuals, wiki, forums and bugtracker before posting a question in one of the forum boards.
Guidelines
Before posting a question to the forums, we would ask that you take the time to read this page.
This information is provided to help you get answers to your questions more quickly. Everyone who provides answers are volunteers and their time is valuable. Following the guidelines below will help them make the best use of that time to aid as many as possible including, of course, you.
Post your question to the correct forum
This may seem obvious but please try to ensure you post your question to the correct forum and in the correct section (eg, for SME Server 8.x, SME Server 9.x, SME Contribs, etc). If you are unsure in which forum your question belongs, please do NOT double post in multiple forums but instead use the General Discussion forum. Most of us read ALL the forums so we will see your question. Double posting will result in
- . you being asked not to double post as opposed to being provided with an answer and
- . multiples posts being locked by a moderator where inappropriate.
Use a descriptive title for your thread
Firstly, post your own thread - do not hijack someone else's thread, even if you think your question is related. You may post a link to any related threads that you feel are appropriate.
Use a descriptive title for your thread. This is your one chance to advertise what it is you require help with and persuade people to actually read and potentially answer your question. Do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak or exclamation marks (!!!!).
Bad example:
Urgent: pls hlp, can't get it to work!!!!!!
This tells us nothing other than it's urgent to you and that something isn't working. It is unlikely to even attract views, let alone answers. If you can't get your title right, what hope do we have that you've actually asked a coherent question in such a way that we may be able to help.
Better example:
Installed SME Server 8.0, need help getting Network to connect (Dell Integrated Broadcom Nic).
Now we know what you've done and those who have dealt with Broadcom Nics will know that it's an issue where they can possibly help. (This also holds for other hardware such as video cards and hard drives. Someone might ignore a subject of network doesn't work but answer a post of realtec card not working if they've had experience dealing with that particular card.)
Composing your question
Again, do not SHOUT and your question is not urgent (at least not to anyone else). Please do not use txt speak and no excessive exclamation marks. Do use good spelling, grammar and punctuation, and split your post up as appropriate into separate paragraphs. We acknowledge that although English is the preferred language of the forums, it is not everyone's first or native language. You do not need to apologize if English is not your native language, just do the best that you can to clearly and concisely describe your problem.
Before posting your question, first think about what your question is. If you don't know what your question is and how to articulate it, it is highly unlikely anyone else will be able to provide a reply. We don't have crystal balls and we can't read minds, also make sure you actually ask a question.
Bad example:
Q: My nic doesn't work!
A: That's a shame, but thank you for sharing it with us. Did you have a question?
Better example:
Q: My nic isn't detected after a default installation of SME Server. Please could anyone assist me in getting it working?
Don't ask questions that can be answered with yes or no, unless you want a yes or no answer, as that's what you'll most likely get.
Bad example:
Q: I can't get Foo to work. Has anyone else managed to get this working?
A: Yes.
Ask realistic questions
Saying you're totally new to Linux and asking how to set up a domain server to authenticate users, provide roaming profiles, file sharing and email services with spam and virus filtering to replace your current server provided by some other company demonstrates totally unrealistic expectations on your behalf. No one is going to be able to help you, as this is likely to be a long term project and not something you are going to achieve over the weekend by asking a couple of questions on a forum.
Provide the relevant information
Research your question or problem. You may find an answer is already provided. Demonstrating that you have researched your question by describing what you have previously done to try to resolve your problem is more likely to persuade a volunteer to help you than if you sit back and expect the answer to land on your plate.
Provide as much useful information as possible to assist others in helping you solve your problem. We don't know what hardware/software you are running, or how you have configured your system unless you tell us. We also can not guess at what error message you may have received.
If you have a hardware-related problem, please provide information about your hardware. We can not help answer questions like "help, my nic isn't working" without knowing what nic you have and what attempts you have made to configure it.
Use commands such as lspci, lsmod, lsusb or dmidecode to gather information about your hardware and provide that in your post.
If you have a software-related question, please provide as much relevant information about your configuration as possible. Provide the version numbers of any software you are using, post the configuration file for the package you are having problems with and check your logs for relevant errors, and post these too (only the relevant errors please, not the whole log file).
If you have a network-related question, please provide as much information about your topology and configuration as possible. For example: network links and type, routers, LAN toplogy, servers, Clients, and Desktops. Where it may be part of the issue, identify the model and version of these items.
If your question relates in any way to the kernel, please show us what kernel(s) you have installed and running by providing the output from the following commands:
uname -a rpm -qa kernel* | sort
This will help to speed up the process of getting your problem resolved and is likely the first information you will be asked for if you haven't provided it.
What to do if no one answers
Please wait for at least 24 hours. The volunteers on this forum live all over the world. If it's day time where you live, it's going to be night time somewhere else and the person able to answer your question may be sleeping, so give everyone a chance to read your question.
If after 24 hours you haven't received any answers, then you may bump your thread by posting more information. By more information, we mean what you have tried during the last 24 hours to fix the problem. You have been trying to fix your problem, haven't you and not just waiting for someone else to fix it for you?
What to do once you have an answer
It would be nice to thank the member(s) who helped you. We are all the more inclined to help those who take the time to acknowledge the help they have received.
Provide feedback as to what the solution was. This will help the next person with the same problem to identify the solution and so share this knowledge with others.
Congratulations, now you have an answer to your problem, you have gained some valuable knowledge that, hopefully, you'll be willing to share when another Community member asks a similar question. Before you know it, you will be one of the people answering some of the questions, not just asking them. This is how a community works, by giving a little back occasionally. So once you have an answer we hope you'll stay around and become part of the Community.
